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She didnt bully Bernadette either. So I can tell you kids in these upper class schools are not angels and theyre raised not to be by their parents, who were the same way when they were in school. For murder! if you came at her the wrong way like Bernadette did, or kids no one else liked cause they were so annoying to be around. She didnt give examples because she wasnt bullied by Kirsten. Kirsten didnt like (stupidity). We know Bernadette has issues, you that like her and defend her have Issues as well. I wouldnt doubt it cause thats how much she is hated in Orinda. Note: ClickAmericana.com features authentic historical information, and is not intended to represent current best practices on any topic, particularly with regard to health and safety, but also in terms of outdated cultural depictions and social values. I wasnt crazy about Kirsten Carrie, Christine and the rest, I knew how Maybe I made a mistake somewhere in the story (not sure youre mostly just saying I was not being honest what is that about?). Wish someone would come back on here and tell us more about it. She only had certain friends. Angela was born to pitch. I still cant believe this individual who killed someone because of jealousy, if she was so down in the dumps they why didnt she just KILL herself?????? They grow out of it as they get older. To begin life anew without the stigma of murderer attached to her, the parolee legally changed her name to Jeannette Butler and moved from California to Oklahoma and became a nurse. And in the movie, the big butcher knife sat between the 2 girls in the car. I admit that 7 years was a bit brief but thats how it is when youre underage. Dee I dont agree with you, so Kirsten and them had you on a project assignment and they didnt include you in the circle, you ever thought maybe you gave signals you dont belong, or why didnt you ask them to allow you, people cant read minds. Google it and Season 1 thru 3 Lindsey is on there. Well one mother of her friend on a blog told Kirsten was Exclusive and liked everyone. i remember always thinking that Bs case would had been much different today. Orinda folks and former Students who knew Kirsten are not into Morbid fascinations. very sad. No , then its gona be she was mental ill and forgotten forever yes? Kirsten would probaly still be today to if she was still alive. Some are quick, rich, own the finest and the most expensive of anything. Plenty of Italians are natural blondes. To much detailed stuff if you ask me. You cant go back in time. Rubbish, it was jealousy and pure rage. You are full of it. So if your child were bully someone they deserve to die ? You Mats that knows Kirsten, why was she so Mean? Snotty people blamed her publicly and without mercy.. shame on them, you know who you are. She still is as far as Im concerned. . This is what makes me sad the most. She couldnt careless about Orinda to start with let alone go back there. Kirsten wasnt Super Rich like Melrose Place, family was well off, so was Bernadettes. View Angela Delvecchio results in New York (NY) including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. I think Bernadette was a lesbian thats why she felt she couldnt have Kirsten tell everyone that she fancied her. They still do Bernadette and always will, so she has to look over her head every second. I never seen her make fun of anyone, of course, I wasnt around her that much, but she was friendly and nice. Gripping, sad, and just plain scary, A Friend to Die For premiered in September and was the highest-rated TV movie of 1994 (10 years after the actual murder.) Angela is related to Elizabeth Biernot and Angela E Goodson. Kirsten was in the class of 1986, A Friend to Die For premiered in September and was the highest-rated TV movie of 1994. Joey dated Angela Delvecchio before the series began. Top 3 Results for Angela Delvecchio. Self Absorbed yes. Kirsten would of long outgrown that before now, if she had of lived. Most cheerleader s are friendly, and yes at the same time, kind of stuck up, to a degree, they only run with certain groups, but they will say hello to you, and help you if you need it. She should of told the truth and met Kirsten at the house and talked there with her parents present. Finally, as an aside, I think some people need to learn the difference between fiction and reality. When no one there answered the phone, Alexander Arnold offered to drive her back to a neighbors house in Orinda. Yes sex offenders have to let people know theyre registered sex offenders true, but Bernadette was a child who murdered another child in the (courts eyes) I agree she should have to let people know what she did, but Court system is the one to blame for that. No one is bothering her anymore. Every School has kids people dont like! Rupaul and Sarah, Bernadette has friends and fit in. Did you know the 2 Accussed? Im sorry if I offended anybody here with my earlier comments. You would have to contact her friends personally for any information on who gets together or doesnt, I personally dont know, and even if I did I wouldnt tell it on here and name them off, that is invading Privacy. 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I still have nightmares of many girlfriends ignoring me, making fun of me and being just vicious. She was outgoing even as a nurse, but now, I hear she dont really associate with anyone outside of family. You named all of Kirstens friends. Birthday: 12/20. Kirsten was just Stuck up, but not a mean girl. As I wrote to you in a previous comment, if anyone was pushed to the brink, it was Kirsten, but instead of reacting violently like Bernadette did, she ran from Bernadettes car. I dont think they meant any harm at all, and as for the prank calls, they were probaly only fooling around, Nancy would take it all wrong, and say things back thinking it was a personal attack my standpoint. Kirsten wasnt a Bully. I know right. Did Kirsten deserve to die over it. Please make an appointment with your councilor at school and discuss this with him or her ?lol go guys and do some research..the real Bernadette was very beautiful,(but poor) while the real Kristen was very average (but rich)Kristen well deserved her fate,all the bullies making others life miserableno sympathy from me at all. She was mean and Stuck up also. I read a lot of nice things about Kirsten as well, so she couldnt of been all that bad. Just because there was bullying in a fictional movie, doesnt mean the Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten in real life. Kirsten was a straight A student and involved in activities, she wanted to run with top kids. After attempting to confirm Protti's alibi, police suspected that she had lied. You sympathize with a murderer and deliberately perpetuate lies about her victim under different aliases, yet you are telling someone else to get help? Theyre not looking forward to seeing her. Regardless no one deserves to die like that. It is abundantly clear from your comments that you do not have class and were not raised to treat others with respect, you odiously sanctimonious deluded ignoramus. So yes it sucks to be bullied, but that is no excuse for any kind of physical action. Kristen was a total bully, just horrible. Also there Was another girl who went out with the football team and accused them all of raping her, not the entire team, but several players and I hear she was ran out as well and dogged by the Students. Im sure Kirsten had her moments, no right to be Savagely Murdered. Youll notice that there are no pictures of Kirsten as a cheerleader. The whole movie seems based on stuff Bernadette said and from her point of view which is a bit unfair. WOW MIRANDA, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE A TRIGGER TOO. You will think positive then allow being moved by what ppl say or do. Its all coming back to haunt her for what she did. Everyone loved my friends because they were funny and not rich. Its time to move on and stop rehashing alll this. Protti received the maximum possible punishment of nine years, although she was released on parole after only seven years at the age of 23. Senseless. By education I mean an all-round drawing out of the best in the child and man; body, mind and spirit. ~ Mahatma Gandhi. By kel12347 @kel12347 (33) United States July 8, 2007 1:01pm CST I watched a movie on LMN yesterday called "Death of a Cheerleader." In it, a girl transferred to a public school and tries to be popular. She only confessed cause the FBI was cornering her, and she had no where to turn to. In USA is more important to be popular, not smart, no matter how you treat others you become popular just because you say some joke or anything else to molest the person. I dont understand what is wrong with people. The case has also been depicted in the TV documentariesDeadly Delinquentsand Killer Kids. Calling her a B and saying she dressed nice in an interview. I certainly dont condone murder under any circumstances even if someone is being bullied but I certainly think it is a terrible thing to actually do a movie that is based on true events without any detail to the accuracy of the characters. Kirsten wont grow out of hers, Bernadette took that chance from her. It would appear that kirsten marina costas was a spoilt rich kid who never had to go without any luxuries at all. I thought Miramonte was a nice place, if you make good decisions myoumwill make it (popular or not). This is Bern or her sister, or even BFF. One girl here posted that one girl accused Football players of Sexual Assault at a Party and she was driven out of that School also. Regardless of what it's called, the important message is the same: bullying has a profound effect on young people and can cause them to do harm to either themselves or others. View the profiles of people named Angela Delvecchio. Pre-meditation seems sensible between the clothes and the knife. As for the girls acting like Hoes if they have PTSD from it maybe they should of thought of the consequences, before they did it. Protti lured Costas from her home with a false story about a party, to which the wanna-be would give her pretty friend a ride. So she didnt like Joanna or Nancy, she isnt Obligated to, or owe them anything. The costas still have to deal with pain and grief and it doesnt matter if she was angry nobody thought about kirsten or her family by letting bernadette get a slap on the wrist! The day after the murder in June 1984, rumors had already spread at the tennis courts, down oak-shaded lanes and at poolside. Love indeed. Heres what I think came down, the 2 girls had an argument and Bernadette was afraid she would of been kicked out of the (Bobbies) and excluded from that group. Of course its done and over with, and people arent forgiving and never let you forget anything you did, she made a enormous mistake, that cant change, but she does regret it and as for her and the Costas family making Peace, cant even tell you how much truth is in that, but Im sure she reached out and owned her part, but nothing she can do to change what the outcome cost them. [1] According to Protti's later testimony, she had planned to take Costas to the party to befriend her, but Costas became angry when she was told that there was no dinner for the new "Bobbies." She was obsessed with being liked and Kirsten not liking her. Teenagers killed each other for being bullied or cause they are lesbian? You took the words right out of my mouth! I never thought she would go as far as murder. Bernadettes BFF. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Patient Perspective. I just hear she stays mostly to herself and dont see much of former classmates. If shed been bullied by Kirsten, seems like shed have told it in detail. Bernadette had plenty of friends who loved her. She talked to most people. Basically ,she liked everybody. You are lying. I hear Kirsten was Beautiful inside and out. Dont matter if Kirsten was a bully or the meanest girl ever, you haters on her leave her alone and let her Rest In Peace. I just read on You tube on her recipe Video where she is sick now. Also McDonald I heard of her on these sites. Teens are teens. So classy and dead on. Oh please bet you were t any better. Youre no better than Bernadette haters as well. Kirsten is the true victim in this case. Those girls wouldnt allow you in their groups in classes, they would exclude you as an earlier article stood. I also noticed, in both movies, Bridget/Angela kept staring at Kelly/Stacy. Later, she married her husband and is now officially known to the world as Jeannette Tomanka. Also Karen, Kirsten favors Stacey Dash, with Lindsey Warners personality on Saved by the Bell. After being set free, Bernadette went through the legal process of changing her name to Jeannette Butler. I was shy, empathetic and depressed. Bernadette was afraid she would end up in the outside looking in ( which finally became the case) she took drastic measures to try and prevent it. You are here. They have also lived in Hanford, CA. Maybe she did something to make it bad. Any more update regarding Bernadette and the family members of both girls? Bet you didnt walk on Water yourself as a teen, bet you were smart Aleck, most teen girls are, and they grow out of it, dont give them the right to be killed. She supposedly suffers from depression. [3] Protti passed a lie-detector test, but her alibi went unverified. The girl with the football players heard she was ran out on her ear and laughed out of there to. Others didnt want any part of them cause Orinda kids want to be liked and accepted, and if you hang out with kids who arent you make yourself and outcast to. I knew Kirsten she was funny and adorable. I have also wondered if her self esteem was also riding on the two most important people of all-her parents!! Anyone still get on these sites? We all are mental ill and could snap in a minute, so be good for yourself and others. Why are you victim shaming ? It was full of middle class and upper- middle class families. I'm all over it! Thats my belief. Or do you mean that you think she was a fragile human being before she brutally murdered Kirsten? She didnt hate anyone. No more Bernadette has a point. They were friends from what I seen, they traveled in the same group and walked together with them. Real class comes from decent human beings who have respect for others. With all this Corona Virus going around, none of that matters, it was 36 years ago, maybe LP or whoever moved on with her life. They obviously made some bad decisions and theres repurcussions for your poor decisions, thats not Kirstens fault, you mad that decisions, not Kirsten. But I dont remember hearing or learning about it until many years later. I was on a few adult precision ice skating teams, and let me tell you, some of the women who were on the teams were a hell of a lot worse than high school girls!! Learn how your comment data is processed. She didnt hate anyone (as I said) just didnt like the way they acted. We are simple people. I think she confessed to Kirsten how she loved her and wanted to be her and it freaked Kirsten out. Paris Mahone, did you even know Kirsten? My kid knows better than to bully others. You wrote in another comment , Kristen had it well deserved. She did well in school academically, had plenty of friends, her close friends genuinely cared about her, she was described as popular in her own wayand she was invited to join an exclusive sorority club. She had moments, and she told her feelings about people. So if she didnt like you, probably you did something to irritate her and she let you know it. I was a 1985 highschool graduate.i had skipped a grade so my classmates were more mature physically and socially. She has Mental issues and always will. I just dont understand cant people just be happy with what god has made them. She was friendly and outgoing. If they want it known they will come forth themselves and tell it or contact you. Girls in Jr high and high School can be Brutal. Kirsten never got to Cheer, go to Prom, Graduate or go on to College. We all as teens said something smart to someone or hurt someones feelings. (Lucky you). Is it difficult to understand why a person might not respect the opinion of someone else who supports a murderer? Yes Kirsten and them all thought they were better than a lot. Wish someone who knew facts would tell us about the real events leading up to Kirstens death. And whenever she went to that parking lot to say that she admired Kirsten, thats probably the reason why she said her friend Got weird. I would have gotten weirded out too if my friend addmitted that she thought that I was perfect, pretty, and good at everything. They had to leave school. You are still getting that she was a bully from the movie where they changed everyones name because they werent doing a real version. I know a gal who knew someone who knew Kirsten. Shes obviously mentally ill . She didnt like their ways mostly. [5] He thought that he was witnessing a fistfight, but in fact Protti had stabbed Costas five times with a butcher knife and fled. I have to agree some, I was there, Kirsten was Cocky at times, no means a Bully just self absorbed. They told about the girls ran out of School. Anyone who defends her and likes her is a Pathetic Loser also. Dont let this Corona Virus stop you? Maybe you need to hear one of those shooters moms speak on YouTube on the Ted talks. My Son was Murders in a drug deal gone wrong. Thank God Im out of high school now and dont have to deal with all that social crap. Bernadette is a Pig. You are right, (Kirsten didnt really bully Bernadette) around a friend she would throw ice at Bernadette, and tease her to show off in front of thier friend, (but girls will be girls). Ann Arbor, MI 48109-5482. She couldnt of been or she never would of killed, and watch the town accuse 2 Innocent girls and harrass,them over it. Kirsten always showed off her cheers, she was proud. Im not saying Kirsten was totally innocent, for it takes 2, but to Murder in Cold blood. You know whats really sad? What? She didnt have time to (bully). Bernadette Protti was the one who put an end to the life of Kirsten Marina Costas, an American high school student who was born on July 23, 1968 and died on June 23, 1984. She didnt Bully Bernadette, Just was irritated cause she lied to her, and her mom about the Party, and all. Put God first. Knowing you though youll never have the character or the balls to do this and that was the reason you arent in whatever popular grip you killed to try to get into. It'snot too hard to believe that the "it" actors in young Hollywood - especially those who worked the TV movie-of-the-week circuit - were friendly or had been co-workers previously. She was Popular, and, she was also nice at times, she just was Stuck on herself. It gave me the creeps. You have no idea what you are talking about with Columbine. Bernadette is a Weirdo as Kirsten spotted, this wasnt about Bullying, it was about being called out in front of the School, and tarnishing her reputation, which in the long run it did. From a standpoint Kirsten was Adorable and fun person. This girl lives in San Francisco and knows a person who knows someone who knew Kirsten. In the spring of 1984, Kirsten had been asked to join the Bob-o-links, or Bobbies, an elite sorority-like organization of thirty to thirty-five of the best looking, most popular girls in school. Kirsten liked almost everybody. You dont know whether or not Kirsten had to go without anything. Interesting. She wanted to, but decided not to go through with it. Most people would be angered and perturbed by that kind of behavior. You copied your little story from some other website. Bernadette may not of paid her dues in the Justice system, shes paid for it online with her haters harassing her and outing her constantly, and her hometown community hated her and still does. Mats you knew Kirsten? Well hes probaly no better. No one have to take the greatest gift God gives,LIFE. We had lonely girls who were bullied and goth girls and loose girls. I bet she finally became an outcast fro supporting Bernadette. Even before I read about the real case, I thought the movie blamed the victim way too much. There were girls she didnt like, either she liked you or she didnt, no in between. Angela Delvecchio-Hall is on Facebook. And Sarah saying Kirsten got what she deserved. Lifetime should be ashamed. I feel for the Costas family. Was Kirsten a smart aleck , dont know but tell me a teen girl who isnt! I cant get to the point quickly. Bernadette would have seen the pain and anguish on Kirstens face, the fear and shock in Kirstens eyes, listened to Kirsten scream in agony (she was reported to have screamed) as she felt the knife rip through Kirsten skin. Karma is catching up with her, thats why she has all these haters and has to watch her back anywhere she goes. 2. She was a young girl, a funny, silly girl who could also be obnoxious. Things were never the same after all that, it was a horrible experience, one good friend was dead and another friend was her killer, it was to much for us to take in and swallow. Others suffer more cause they experience the loss. Bernadette went to private grade school called St. Perpetuas in Lafayette Ca. If Bernadette isnt depressed it would be a Miracle. The full length picture of Kirsten with her hair tied back is so cute. Kirsten doesnt look much better than she. Always had also. Bernadette was clearly very sick and disturbed, yet you appear to be minimizing or even excusing Kirstens murder by referring to Bernadette as a fragile human being, and writing Society in the richest places raise their children to be obnoxious and unbearable little freaks who will at some point push a normal person to the brink. She didnt bully, but she told people how she felt. To them maybe. She was the (In crowd) Bernadette was desiring to be the incrowd. She was not some vulnerable lost soul who was bullied mercilessly. Most Cheerleaders are friendly, but kind of Stuck up as well, and picky about thier friends. We need an Memorial Page set up for Kirsten. Costas was a cheerleader at the school and a popular girl known for her many talents and interests. I remember one time coming back from skiing, my friend and I were saying how we should stab the killer 18 times for what she did. Your email address will not be published. Other outsiders felt like they were excluded from her group to. Kids can be cruel, its always been that way. If she would of left her alone, Kirsten wouldnt of ever bothered her, those TV movies Kirsten wasnt nothing like Tori Spelling, in the 2nd movie a little maybe she was like that girl, but more funnier. The 2nd version of Death of a Cheerleader is more like Kirsten to a degree. That movie was terrible and blamed the victim for her own murder. I have to laugh with this being 2021 and the person with the most judgment has the name of Karen. 2016 - 2020. What teen isnt? She dont go hardly anywhere anymore. I didnt kill them. Theres no excuse for murder. Unless any of these people commenting knew these girls personally and their families, they dont have a place to judge either one of these girls who lived this tragic event. The script for the movie was written by Randall Sullivan who wrote the one-sided scathingly critical Death of a Cheerleader article for Rolling Stone, which the movie was based on. One girl said stupid stuff that embarrassed you, and cussed all the time, and other girls who smoked or cussed, she didnt associate with them, she didnt want around them. Bernadette shoukd of just acknowledged Kirsten was around and spoke Civil to her, without forging the friendship. They were all fun gals to be around. How do you know she was a mean girl? Was Kirsten and her friends a lot of fun to hang with, and did they party? Maybe Snooty, but no Bully. That Bullying was a Copout. To bad she did cause Im sure she would of grown out of her ways and be a positive influence in someones life today even. Every Murdered person was once someones child, parent, sibling or spouse. There were several bullied as I said before. She was given a sentence of nine years in jail before she could begin her life on her own, but she was granted parole after serving only seven of those years. As I said, its possible Bernadette snapped and found the knife by chance; but if she hadnt of been so aggressive towards Kirsten to be her friend, she wouldnt of needed that knife. She had a slumber party on her 15 th BD we all snuck into a pool and swam, (a fun night) and to bad she didnt get to celebrate her 16th Birthday, Art and Berit planned on taking us all to a Hotel and spend the night. Was there 1 or 2 girls blamed for the Murder? You knew Kirsten. She may be dead by now or have this bad Virus. There are 20+ professionals named "Angela Delvecchio", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. She had a sort of ombre style in fact which was kind of weird in the 80s, but cutting edge. Yes. Here you are, pretending you care, pretending you wanna help me, when all your really care about is being popular. Kirsten was just like any other girl who had to go to that snobby school. She was also a very good student who did well academically in school. Kirsten wasnt like whoever (Not True) above article said she had to be snobby at the School there. [6], It took the police almost six months to find Costas' killer. There is no way Bernadette is better than Kirsten. I remember the day every girl attended school when the killer had been caught but we had no name; if they had to fly back, leave the hospital, watever, no girl wanted to be accused for even 24 hours even if they would be exonerated the next day or week. Kirsten, who appeared tense but not terrified, said, My friend got weird on me. She asked to call home. Kirsten understandably didnt appreciate the fact that she was lured out of her house under false pretences, so she left Bernadettes car. Now the new version of the movie was making Bernadette innocent, when Kirsten was innocent herself. Killing her just because you were jealous? With this Virus, and now George Floyd, ( and the Riotings all over) Im deeply surprised people still are discussing Bernadette Protti on here, and other sites. Very, very mean. She was, says one of the judges, a perfect cheerleader.. Bernadette was snotty to. You have no one to blame but yourselves for being unnattractive, fat, disliked, broke loserswhatever your issues are. We had quite a few of them there. She was released the following year. Only talked to her once or twice ever. To much pressure is put on us, but we dont murder because of it. It wont bring Kirsten back. Bernadette is a physchopath and a Killer, and always will be. I can see Kirsten not wanting to be bothered with her. How is sweet referred to Murder? As for LF aka LP she just disappeared off the map somehow. In 1994, the story was made into a television movie entitled A Friend to Die For (also known as Death of a Cheerleader), with Tori Spelling as Stacy Lockwood, a character based on Kirsten Costas and Kellie Martin as Angela Delvecchio, a character based on Bernadette Protti. Maybe they were all misunderstood. Its sad, but when all is said and done its not worth it. Bernadette was not a nice girl, if she was then shed never of killed Kirsten, shed left her alone and went on. She is Crazy obviously, has enough problems and has to deal with murdering Kirsten and that doesnt help. She is still remembered for her heinous crime- murdering a young girl named Kirsten Marina Costas in 1984. Yes its ok to talk, but run it into the ground, it gets old after awhile. Nope! She was jealous of Kirsten and wanted to be everything Kirsten was, but could nt so she killed her.